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	<title>Comments on: LA Times Covers Foodblogging, Shuns LA Foodblogs</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: phol</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-152325</link>
		<dc:creator>phol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jut ran across a new cafe in Santa Monica - 16th/Wilshire - called Cafe Zella... great bakery goods, good fresh made sandwiches and the best choco truffles! nice addition to the neighborhood...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jut ran across a new cafe in Santa Monica - 16th/Wilshire - called Cafe Zella&#8230; great bakery goods, good fresh made sandwiches and the best choco truffles! nice addition to the neighborhood&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Poppy</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-130273</link>
		<dc:creator>Poppy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To:  Socalorie &#38; Co
&#62;"why not recommend local sites that will actually help Angelenos get to know their city"

Because:  even though LA TIMES has a superb staff for FOOD section, the weenies who OWN the paper are elsewhere --Chicago.  They "manage" the paper, IMO, WITH the stereotypes of: California.  THEY are clueless.  LOS ANGELES newspaper doing article on Food Blogs:  should be about food IN Los Angeles, sheesh.  If Russ Parsons, et al, had done the article: it WOULD have been about Los Angeles blogs on LA food only. Believe it.

The comments about main-stream media not getting
it right:  IS why blogs --niche blogs, are popular.  If blogs mimiced major media:  who'd read the blogs?  Right now mainstream media doesn't seem to get their own mission:  they need to tack to their core --watching government, protecting democracy, exposing bums --for us, so we CAN blog.  They're scared, but they shouldn't be:  every generation turns to them, eventually.  We need to support them --buy a national &#38; a local --Every day, and subscribe, to at least one and/or:  click on relevant ads when you read on-line, so they CAN survive to protect us.

To the one who wants to pitch idea to the TIMES:  write out entire idea.  
-Leave it awhile
-Go back and edit it, till it's polished; above it:  summarize the idea/piece in one -two sentences (--as though you were explaining to someone you wanted to impress --who is in a hurry)
-In a few days: re-read.  
-If it turns you on:  call the TIMES main # (--not before a holiday or deadline), ask for
'Food': whoever answers will tell you how/if you can submit.  If they don't want it:  pitch another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To:  Socalorie &amp; Co<br />
&gt;&#8221;why not recommend local sites that will actually help Angelenos get to know their city&#8221;</p>
<p>Because:  even though LA TIMES has a superb staff for FOOD section, the weenies who OWN the paper are elsewhere &#8211;Chicago.  They &#8220;manage&#8221; the paper, IMO, WITH the stereotypes of: California.  THEY are clueless.  LOS ANGELES newspaper doing article on Food Blogs:  should be about food IN Los Angeles, sheesh.  If Russ Parsons, et al, had done the article: it WOULD have been about Los Angeles blogs on LA food only. Believe it.</p>
<p>The comments about main-stream media not getting<br />
it right:  IS why blogs &#8211;niche blogs, are popular.  If blogs mimiced major media:  who&#8217;d read the blogs?  Right now mainstream media doesn&#8217;t seem to get their own mission:  they need to tack to their core &#8211;watching government, protecting democracy, exposing bums &#8211;for us, so we CAN blog.  They&#8217;re scared, but they shouldn&#8217;t be:  every generation turns to them, eventually.  We need to support them &#8211;buy a national &amp; a local &#8211;Every day, and subscribe, to at least one and/or:  click on relevant ads when you read on-line, so they CAN survive to protect us.</p>
<p>To the one who wants to pitch idea to the TIMES:  write out entire idea.<br />
-Leave it awhile<br />
-Go back and edit it, till it&#8217;s polished; above it:  summarize the idea/piece in one -two sentences (&#8211;as though you were explaining to someone you wanted to impress &#8211;who is in a hurry)<br />
-In a few days: re-read.<br />
-If it turns you on:  call the TIMES main # (&#8211;not before a holiday or deadline), ask for<br />
&#8216;Food&#8217;: whoever answers will tell you how/if you can submit.  If they don&#8217;t want it:  pitch another.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalorie</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5484</link>
		<dc:creator>SoCalorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fitz can't hear you. It's ladies night all week at &lt;a href="http://blogsareforwimps.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;blogs are for wimps&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitz can&#8217;t hear you. It&#8217;s ladies night all week at <a href="http://blogsareforwimps.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">blogs are for wimps</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Zteve</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5482</link>
		<dc:creator>Zteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 08:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh, sour grapes. Sour grapes, all! You writers induce me to fart with yer petty jealousies and discontented fiefdoms. Huh, couldn't pay off the right reporter, eh? 

Anyone who remarks on this article is dealing with their own tiny, flapping inadequacies. 

Pop a chuck of wackballs, strap on a bucket of real, and get in the here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, sour grapes. Sour grapes, all! You writers induce me to fart with yer petty jealousies and discontented fiefdoms. Huh, couldn&#8217;t pay off the right reporter, eh? </p>
<p>Anyone who remarks on this article is dealing with their own tiny, flapping inadequacies. </p>
<p>Pop a chuck of wackballs, strap on a bucket of real, and get in the here.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalorie</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5481</link>
		<dc:creator>SoCalorie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 07:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sour grapes is a marching into the LA Times with a dumpster full of Fat Burger and Zankou grease and trashing the Food section desks. (Okay, maybe not Russ Parsons's, but only because you like him, Erin).

Here's why that story is a disservice to any locals who read the Food section:

Los Angeles is a huge city. 

You don't just stumble onto new places walking from the subway to your house. You have to research new places, map the locations and get into your car and go find them. 

Los Angeles also happens to be brimming over with little tiny restaurants offering cuisine from all over the world.

Helping Angelenos find these places and providing invaluable contextual information about the cuisine types is, sadly for all of us, not something the LA Times has a knack for doing. 

Maybe they don't have the resources. Maybe they'd rather cater to their 50-something home subscriber demographic by writing up all the five-star joints. Whatever.

Fortunately, there are hundreds of food bloggers in LA who offer their knowledge, time, interest, prose, photos, tips and passion without any strings attached (no subscription fees, no login requirements). 

Bloggers offer this information for free, not because we lack something better to do (as the Times arrogantly suggests), but because we love the topics, we love the city, and we want to share it and exchange insights with other people who do too.

So, if you're the Food section and you're going to publish a story about niche food blogs, why not recommend local sites that will actually help Angelenos get to know their city and its wealth of food offerings a little bit better? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sour grapes is a marching into the LA Times with a dumpster full of Fat Burger and Zankou grease and trashing the Food section desks. (Okay, maybe not Russ Parsons&#8217;s, but only because you like him, Erin).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s why that story is a disservice to any locals who read the Food section:</p>
<p>Los Angeles is a huge city. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t just stumble onto new places walking from the subway to your house. You have to research new places, map the locations and get into your car and go find them. </p>
<p>Los Angeles also happens to be brimming over with little tiny restaurants offering cuisine from all over the world.</p>
<p>Helping Angelenos find these places and providing invaluable contextual information about the cuisine types is, sadly for all of us, not something the LA Times has a knack for doing. </p>
<p>Maybe they don&#8217;t have the resources. Maybe they&#8217;d rather cater to their 50-something home subscriber demographic by writing up all the five-star joints. Whatever.</p>
<p>Fortunately, there are hundreds of food bloggers in LA who offer their knowledge, time, interest, prose, photos, tips and passion without any strings attached (no subscription fees, no login requirements). </p>
<p>Bloggers offer this information for free, not because we lack something better to do (as the Times arrogantly suggests), but because we love the topics, we love the city, and we want to share it and exchange insights with other people who do too.</p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re the Food section and you&#8217;re going to publish a story about niche food blogs, why not recommend local sites that will actually help Angelenos get to know their city and its wealth of food offerings a little bit better?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonah</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 06:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sour grapes would be "this article sucks" without anymore content. I have done LA Times' work for them and offered up some alternatives with local sites cross referenced. 

Also, without any disclaimer, the sites mentioned in the article are all worth reading in their own right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sour grapes would be &#8220;this article sucks&#8221; without anymore content. I have done LA Times&#8217; work for them and offered up some alternatives with local sites cross referenced. </p>
<p>Also, without any disclaimer, the sites mentioned in the article are all worth reading in their own right.</p>
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		<title>By: cookiecrumb</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5474</link>
		<dc:creator>cookiecrumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 05:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo! Good piece. See, this is why the corporate media are increasingly irrelevant. (Plus, they're *scared* of blogs!)
I don't know why Marty Fitz is a grinch, though.
cheers from the Bay Area
cc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! Good piece. See, this is why the corporate media are increasingly irrelevant. (Plus, they&#8217;re *scared* of blogs!)<br />
I don&#8217;t know why Marty Fitz is a grinch, though.<br />
cheers from the Bay Area<br />
cc</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvie</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 02:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty Fitz- What is your blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty Fitz- What is your blog?</p>
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		<title>By: Sweetnicks</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5465</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweetnicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 01:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats to all that were mentioned.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats to all that were mentioned.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Fitz</title>
		<link>http://la.foodblogging.com/2006/01/04/la-times-covers-foodblogging-shuns-la-foodblogs/#comment-5461</link>
		<dc:creator>Marty Fitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all sour grapes.  Almost everyone complaining (on this and other LA food sites) either have food blogs that were not in the article or involved with food websites which also were overlooked or simply didn't meet the author's criteria of "specialized".  And it's odd to complain so much and then claim that the LA Times is no big deal and no authority on this anyway.  You wouldn't be so hurt if it didn't mean so much to you.  Listen to Rachael and move on.       </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all sour grapes.  Almost everyone complaining (on this and other LA food sites) either have food blogs that were not in the article or involved with food websites which also were overlooked or simply didn&#8217;t meet the author&#8217;s criteria of &#8220;specialized&#8221;.  And it&#8217;s odd to complain so much and then claim that the LA Times is no big deal and no authority on this anyway.  You wouldn&#8217;t be so hurt if it didn&#8217;t mean so much to you.  Listen to Rachael and move on.</p>
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