If you like divey bars with torn-up vinyl seats, old-timey signs and photos on the wall, along with what looks like professional drinkers at the bar (not the good kind) — and this passes for “character” with you, then you will like the place.

I prefer the orchestrated chaos of Philippe’s cleanliness and activity to the (legitimate) mustiness of Cole’s, even if the place is packed solid before a Dodgers game.

However, I think Cole’s sandwiches are a bit better. I hesitate to recall exactly the jus vs jus aspect, but the meat to me seemed better prepared at Cole’s. In fact, the food prep section of the restaurant was the nicest part of the whole place.

As for live shows, I went to the website mentioned by Celia but could not see any listings of upcoming events. Again, I think this appeals to pubbies more than foodies.

Maybe it has something to do with eating above or below ground?

Cole’s area is become more desireable to the loft-a-nistas. In fact it appears the old P.E. Building itself is being turned into high end lofts. Times they are a changing. Too bad parking will still be a nightmare compared to Philippe’s (which is why I usually go to the latter). Love the Philippe’s mustard to –I buy some when I return to LA on vacations.

There is definitely more atmosphere at Cole’s but your remark that “no human being willingly lives in that part of town” is extremely dated. Check out the “regulars” section of the Cole’s website, many of whom live within stumbling distance and for a good number of years, too.

Some beautiful women at Cole’s, though.

Lines at Philippe’s could be nice, but then they’d lose those tables there.